In recent years, we’ve seen a growing interest from sustainability systems in tackling gender inequalities through their schemes. A 2022 ISEAL-CGIAR Gender Equality Initiative scoping study tried to understand how some of ISEAL's Community Members are integrating gender into their schemes. It highlighted the important role systems can play in reducing gender inequalities and improving women's empowerment. It also raised some challenges and learning opportunities including around good practice for developing gender policies and strategies, and key entry points for getting started. In this podcast, we hear from Chloe Austin from the Responsible Jewellery Council about how they have incorporated gender into their scheme to understand how they got started and what lessons and advice they have for other sustainability systems looking to do the same.